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  It takes a good imagination to be a JDub

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at the regional convention, the speaker said that jehovah is our best friend.

  so let's see...if i need a ride to the doctor's office can i call on my best friend to give me a ride to the office?

  when i wake up in the morning and tell my best friend jehovah, "good morning, how are you?

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  Yes a best friend that will kill you if you make a mistake. That won't do a single thing for any human because the time isn't just right.
  
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  News spot for JW convention - keep barf bags ready

  by days of future passed in

  1. social
  2. current

  i could barely stand listening to it.

  watching the jw pushers at the same time was too much.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgix-5pfwf4.

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  You know it's probably just a weird couch, but where the heavy guy is sitting, it's looking like he broke it.

  Funny how weird it all seems in the real world when they try to explain what the convention is about. But as witnesses, it all seemed right. And because they aren't talking to JW's, they have a certain level of embarrassment over what they are saying.
  
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  News spot for JW convention - keep barf bags ready

  by days of future passed in

  1. social
  2. current

  i could barely stand listening to it.

  watching the jw pushers at the same time was too much.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgix-5pfwf4.

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  days of future passed

  I could barely stand listening to it. Watching the JW pushers at the same time was too much. But this is what they are all about.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGix-5PfWF4
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  Did you wait for something special to happen?

  by stillin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i pretty much fell apart for about two years while i was looking at the religion through new eyes.

  i prayed my heart out for two years, begging jehovah to clear a certain thing up that the elders and the organization had perpetuated.

  this was supposed to be his spirit-led organization so getting things right in answer to possibly just one person's heartfelt prayers should be an easy task for the sovereign of the universe.

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  days of future passed

  Even tho I was tortured by the WT religion, I believed it was true. Just a truth I couldn't escape. Then my brother in law found out the hard way, that the WT doesn't give a crap about women or children in the organization. They told me. I researched the bible and compared to their literature. Found that they knew what they were teachings were lies. End of belief in that.

  Now I know that "God" as pictured in the bible or elsewhere, doesn't exist. Something/things/energy does exist, but pretty much is just a trouble maker.

  So I don't expect help from an outside source.
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  In Search of An Analogy

  by InjusticeSystem in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope this finds all of you well.

  i'm also hoping some of you might be able to help me with a particular type of de-witnessing strategy that i'm trying to develop more in my own discussions with active family members.

  it seems to me that analogy and metaphor plays a prominent role in the society's teaching (critical thought killing) techniques.

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  days of future passed

  People who use tobacco, are just as addicted to a product as JW's. Tobacco strokes the pleasures centers and makes a crappy situation seem a little better.

  WT gives people an out in regards to death which is big. Have injustice in your life or poor living conditions? WT's brand of religion can solve those problems because God will kill those wicked people and you will get to have the best house and food in paradise. TAX FREE! No need to stress over a loved one dieing, they'll come back.

  Just like a quick smoke, WT teachings can make a crappy situation seem a little better.

  I usually do comparisons.

  • ISIS destroying art because they are pagan - Israelites destroying temples in the promised land.
  • ISIS kidnapping children and raping them everyday because they are "slaves" - Israelites conquering the promised land were allowed to take females that hadn't had sex before and ...took them as wives raped them.
  • ISIS throwing homosexuals off buildings - What God will do to them.

  I told these to a witness at work who was bemoaning the art being destroyed by ISIS. Didn't make her change but I believe bits and pieces add up.

  The bible is a world unto itself. Exposing the actions of God or his followers in a real sense by comparisons makes for one uncomfortable conclusion.
  
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  The Forgery of an Antique God

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in the world of antiquities, especially that of bronze art, specifically heads, would you be surprised or alarmed to discover that experts estimate about half of all the art sold at auction and donated to museums around the world.... consists of forgeries?while you're digesting the news of corrupt practice, let me raise a rather vexatious collateral issue for your consideration:.

  auction houses keep silent about this fraud.in fact, it has been asserted by investigators specializing in such fraud, it is largely the auction houses submitting these works at auction under fake identities so they cannot be directly held liable for illicit transactions.

  proving they've knowingly done so is too problematic to pass muster.one expert who exposed such a fraud was sued by the auction house and forced toward financial settlement out of court under the libel laws.now why mention all the above in the first place?for one reason only, the same thing occurs in the religious transactions of jehovah's witnesses.the auction house (watchtower corporation) represents its salvific theology as authentic and transacts with potential converts so's they pay for such art (ful fraud) by giving their lives, honor, and sacred service in exchange.when flaws are found, instead of owning up to the illicit enterprise, they seek legal redress or prosecute the accuser through coercive threats of disfellowship.now here is another insidious parallel.

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  I read a great book about a man, that was hired to determine if objects were a forgery. One well known family that produced fakes, would dreg up old roman columns from the ocean and make pieces out of them. Then they would put them back in to "age" them.

  One of the more well known "fakes" that the Getty museum owns, but won't admit to, is the kouros statue. They paid too much money for it.

  

  But I find this quote interesting. From Bruce Mcnall:

  “[As a collector in the 1980s,] any time you find something brand new, it’s sexier,” he said. “Otherwise it’s been around, it’s been seen, and maybe there’s a reason someone else hasn’t bought it…Nobody wants some old broad that’s been around on the town for too long.”

  So the WT found something "new" with their religion that didn't have the trinity, hellfire etc. Certainly different from the big Religions that have been around for a while. One of the compelling reasons the Getty museum bought that statue, was that it's history included a hint of being looted. That made it "authentic" in their minds, since many art objects are acquired by shady means. The WT has presented itself as a religion that has been around hidden but was "chosen" by God and Jesus. Haha Hidden goods.
  
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  Banners for London Protest

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks, i’m attending the london protest at the excel convention in august and am making some banners.

  i’m aiming for short but memorable sentences that will stick in jws minds and also make them laugh a little at their own organisation.. my best so far is ‘this is not a protest, it’s an overlapping protest’.

  has anyone got any ideas for more?.

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  A picture is worth a thousand words

  
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  The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.

  thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.

  we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.

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  Wow! How great!

  I guess you could say the ARC is the ARK that saves people from drowning in the WT.
  
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  Kingdom Hall ... BURGER KING?

  by sparky1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i live in a very rural part of the northeastern united states.

  after 9 years of waiting, the local witnesses are getting their new kingdom hall.

  it is being built on a back road next to a sandpit.

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  stuckinarut2 - The first KH is super ugly. The second looks like a horse barn. The third like someone hired cheap labor to make an addition, so sterile.

  I don't think anyone but a JW would believe what they wrote.
  
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  Everything Happens For A Reason

  by Charles Gillette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does everything happen for a reason?

  i hear this from so many people without any explanation as how this is so.

  what do you think about this belief?

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  days of future passed

  There are two thoughts going on here.

  One is that people are using it to explain "fate" or direct manipulation from some mystical source that provides a "lesson" or makes an example of you. "I was born deformed so that I could learn to be humble or inspire others" etc.
  

  The other is the cause and effect.

  I thought the topic involved the second. My mistake.